what are the different levels in primerica

Again you need to read, I am a client with more knowledge than you. You just steal from Primerica. Basically, they offer to do a free analysis of your finances and come up with a plan to help you with your debt problem. My limited knowledge is smarter than your argument. The problem is the product they sell is worthless. In quantitative variables, ratio types are variables with true zero values and cannot have negative values. And it shows your greed. Oh, and the fact that I pay about 8% in taxes instead of the 28% Id have to pay as an employee. How many hours working at minimum wage does it take a person to make a $1000 take home? You can do that with Primerica. they are told they have a savings plan. If you have achieved the designation of Regional Vice President in the Primerica sales force, even though this Agreement may have terminated, you will be entitled to earn any vested commissions, as defined in your Regional Vice You sound like the guys on all these websites. I guess that explains why you have not been able to figure out how you can do it better. , You are forgetting that the same tax considerations is on both policies. You are exactly right 100%. I think toms loyalties are misplaced. Many tools can be used in many different ways. Why are you mad at the sales person getting paid? My only purpose is to expose to PFS agents that there are other options. Selling them policies they knew where bad, but laughing all the way to the bank. Do you really want to pay a couple pennies less and get considerable less service? standard plus non smoker In the great state of California, It cost just for a life license, $251 for school, $237 for the license, 75 for finger printing. or 1%. Just remember, NBIP (nothing personal in business). In a terminal situation there may be other expenses especially if there are LTC cost without a LTC policy. They gave me my first mutual fund. They sell to sell another product to the same client. Again, You are making things up. Well I am so glad to know your job covers everyone else in the planet! Ron Seeback and Steve Edwards both resigned from PFS in October.. I know you are not an adviser for several reasons. But then again if the client takes the difference, the amount in a conservative mutual fund of 8%, would be more than the ROP. Big deal. Therefore will harass you until you switch from Term to Cash value. It clear to see that Tom does not master excellent communicational skills. Then you can be ok. I have seen the letters that other customers had, (Primerica gets many things from their clients.) Unless you work undersomeone then you are really not independent. Since I did not nor will I ever invest in companies that are inherently bad, like Cigarettes, South Africa during Apatheid, and other companies, and chose not to send my money that way. Anyone in sales, is usually captive. IF I give up 10,000 leg, and get 3 to 4 legs in exchange, I am up 20,000 to 30,000. I do not harass anyone and if some one is misleading anybody turn them in. @Michael Thomas. It may not be the best option for what that customer is looking for or needs. AS for Disability Insurance: Again I have said this before byut since it seems you miss the point before let me repeat myself. just remembered that i would follow up and post after some appointments. James posts and you say he is right. If a guy goes get second job for $8 and hour he is smart. All classes for the above licenses. How many of them are lies, deceptive or just plain wrong? Does the agent wish to offer med sups? 3. At this level of SAFe, the goals and objectives for the whole enterprise are provided. Limiting the amount is a prudent business decision since they are limiting their liability. TRULY look at your downline team and ask them if PFS is really proving them with a sustainable business and income? You dont know me or my team, nor do you know how successful any of us are. But then again, Magicians never want you to watch the correct hand. This is just my take on it. When a captive company (Primerica) does not require E/O, whose best interest are they looking out for? . I can see that you are a CLIENT and not an agent. You can do it! Since Whole life is the most expensive form of cash value the cost will huge. Thanks for the laughs and by all means, please post again. The baby kissing should be left up to the politicians and I must no go wash up feeling dirty after reading Tom only client responses. You decide. As for being unprofessional, I do notice you used initials, Are you afraid like Mike found out that people will remember what you say here and it will come to bite you in the butt. Primary Structure. Bill, am I woman or a man? Do you remember what the purpose of Insurance is? Thats like buying a car based on a good paint job, not seeing if its a good car. Now, If someone helped them get to that huge estate, they might keep them around. Does the agent wish to offer health insurance? You have fewer fund families than a 401k which is sad, and a common sense annuity; give me a break. if I succeed, my coach/upline succeeds). BY FAR DO NOT QUIT WHAT YOU ARE DOING YOU ARE THE BEST. The sales force pays for that. I can assist in helping people get mortgages. IS he a smart man, YES. Term4Sale is owned by COMPULIFE Software, Inc. which sells term comparison software to thousands of life agents throughout the U.S. and Canada. Anyone can use it, even someone who does not hold a license. To advance in commission levels by having recruiting requirements ot having an option of recruiting and the ability to advance from persoanl production? I am sure many of you could relate who have families and friends who joined. Now if I am doing business that is financial based, most people who are giving money to you expect you to have an office. How many people are working at that age? The promotion levels of Primerica are: Representative Senior Representative District Leader Division Leader Regional Leader Regional Vice President And you are required no degree, or special training since they teach you. My Question to you is why do have to resort to being cheapest. After giving it some thought, and after trying to talk to people about what I was doing and if they could help me out, it became apparent this isnt for me. And then again what do I get for $5. Securities Licensed This whole thing can be broken down much more, but it would be a long post. Therefore will harass you until you switch from Term to Cash value. Well why isnt a fully guaranteed premium better than a partial guarantee? Since it seems that this person is a competitor, it does nto suprise me the salm job he is trying. This is typical of Insurance agents that cant take the heat. I am going to approach it as an opportunity to educate people first and then as an opportunity to sell something that will meet their financial needs. It is when a company will take a loss to get you in their store, or on their client lists. And has been around a little longer than the last couple months. How can you say you are looking out for your clients wehn you sell fixed annuities and term that has the only option of converting to keep it? And as for the Rule of 72, it will blow your need for insurance in the later years. Working out of you home is so ghetto. In fact, I will encourage them to do so. I have a couple questions for Michael Thomas as Im going to a weekly Primerica meeting for the first time tomorrow night, recruited by a guy I trust completely, and somewhat skeptical of the situation. Matter of fact, he was talking to one of the biggest groups of Christian leaders. I can tell you Primerica paid out over a billion in death benefit in 2007, as opposed to average joes company that maybe maxed out 400 million in 07. there is no requirement for anyone to do a Term to perm. Well since you need a basic education along with a detail one, may be you need to get out of this business? But in Financial services it is even more important. They may not sell the cheapest but then again they are worth their time. You asked why selling only PFS is bad. As for you knowledge, I have a broken watch in my drawer. $0 in your account for the first 1 to 7 years. Lets talk about current companies. Most life insurance has accelerated death benefit . Not only do they provide protection for you and your family, but Primerica also offers long-term investment strategies. Primerica seems to be mostly concerned with recruiting more counselors so that they can keep the scheme going. Now if everyone was broke in your baseshop then it has to be your responsibility. Would this part be the invest the difference? ask your PFS rep. he should know a few things abvout ROP. I am so glad you keep posting Michael. ____________________-. Life insurance is not supposed to be used for health issues, but replacing the income. What is wrong with showing a person on how to build a team so they can know what it takes to build a business of there own. Lately, those same new recruits have been used to replace the folks with tenure.gee, I wonder why? DOes he have to pay for all his licenses? SESAME STREET ECONOMICS 1 If you are only licensed as a life insurance agent and a mutual funds representative and you believe you can take a wholestic financial planning approach you are wrong. . Im glad I finally found a blog about this that doesnt have its last post in November 2006. lol Those are the people running the company. No person in Primerica gets paid to recruitonly to sell products. Of course the addage goes: you get what you pay for but is that the case in this debate? This is a Christian blog. Most brokers do this so they do not lose the clients they have. Then I came to you and said, hey come work for me and market these products. Since then I have had 4 increases an coverages, and 2 reductions in premiums. Since you are not an agent I do not think you can have your PFS buddy run a quote for 40 year old male standard rating no childer. Another poster asked why cant we let the clients decide? If you mean who keeps in contact with the clients, well the up line does that. Now I ask you, do you have to meet quotas where you work? I firmly believe that I can offer a better products and services for my clients. . I bet you have lost many clients to the better system of Primerica. Primerica pays in 2 weeks, and the rest looks to see if the President will declare the attack as an act of war. It is a business owner. In the past couple of years all of us little people have been instructed to recruit new people. Also Michael, you would know Citi is selling off assets. In my opinion I believe that we insurance agents have a moral obligation to actually give the client the best service and products available and if you can only sell one product its had to be competative. If he shows me by invest $50 a month, my child can have over 100,00 dollars for college, that is a value. Since their is no such thing, you might want to look it up. I just know the industry. Not really. There is no perfect fit. Their agents are limited in products and training. Now, lets pick Dell. Another reason why thats an ignorant comment is because thats like saying I dont want to get my drivers license because then I have to follow the rules now or submit to the government. You need a pacemaker, do you want the cheapest or the best? Why would an agent offer term insurance? Let me ask you how youd hedge a portfolio against systematic risk. You see when I come across PFS agents who try to recruit me, yes it does happen, I just deal with facts. Could this be the reason for the hateful and deceitful posts? He was commission generated. Now that their parent company will unload them soon well see what happens to their ratings and credibility. And this is because you need to handle all the compliance issues. Primerican out! Tom please give me a history lesson on life insurance. Just like people are willing to pay more for the fact of getting something out of it. When I was younger before I was an owner, I had a friends father die. Have you looked up the definition of CHEAP? I want a place to go to where I can see and touch the funiture. And then you can invest the difference in a mutual fund and have college for the kids. More competitive. Since my that is a waste, why woudl I want to work with a company that sells garbage? He wasted his time to find out they were trying to convert him to cash value. Sure they have you for two years or whatever but after that isnt it your decision to stay or go? Either way they are not good companies. But there is more than this one. I asked him to repeat what he said about Primerica. Besides it is tax deductable, dollar for dollar. If youd rather email me you can @ [emailprotected] Tom give it up..LOL..There wasnt anything negative intended about the Art Williams video I send it to my team to view.. Maybe you need to go visit your local office on a client overveiw night. Cause it is apparent you do not know how to read. 3. Plus the money is the clients, so they never have to borrow, they can withdraw. My only purpose is to expose to PFS agents that there are other options. I can even bet you signed a clause but did not know about it. If you say differently, you are not being truthful. Coincidentally or not, this seems to be somewhat of a win-win. You said ROP is great for savings, the only problem is when I save money I want the money to be mine. Only 1 to 5% rate of return. 1.) To be you, how much does it cost? Really., And you missed it AGAIN. You know I just cant see myself or anyone with any sense, giving a check for that big amount of money at a Dennys. Now, Since Micheal, or Thomas, must have known this since he was spouting his knowledge of A.L. One you sell price not value. To them its business. Just like when you buy a used car, you should take it to a mechanic, a specialist on cars, I took my financial game plan to a specialist. ONe can only guess. Run the numbers and add it up. Since you still cant figure it out, why not stay off these boards so the only people you confuse is your clients. Tom as always you dont understand. Do you know anyone in America that would turn down making and extra 1000 to 3000 dollars a month working 40 hours a month? Im sure you understand how the cash value of a policy is used within a policy and who owns it. Then at some point give up an agency leg group for VP promotion. Tom side by side. _____________________________. Its kind of like saying McDonalds hamburgers are the best without trying Wendys or Burger King. There are people out there that are thrown out of Primerica. You can do a better and cheaper job using other items. If that agent builds a team and decides that its time to move on what can he/she take with them? They do not need this crap. This is an opinion. They will be eventually closed since they do the same practises. They are less expensive ways that do it better. I am leery of MLMs. You need to break the law or do something foolish. They say it is a waste of money. EVERY REAL PLANNER KNOWS THAT ESTATE PRESERVATION PLANS INCLUDE CASH VALUE I had cancer in my family, does that mean I need cancer insurance. . Well you may be right but, I have a broken watch that was right twice a day. Just refer people to your RVP and do your nursing thing and since you will be licensed you can be compensated, but of course follow your individual states laws. Then you are on the getting side forever. So Please for your clients sake get glasses. It only cost you $99.00 to get all that from Primerica. Through out some websites, that you say something that it does not. That saidtheres no company in the regulated USA who would last 31 years in business if they had bad/illegal/take advantage of consumers type business practices. -. (If you want to know, I talk to my agent and he told me.) Remind me of a saying You know how you know when a salesperson, or Michael is lying? But I think it can be a big strain on families because people change when they join PFS, because they are fed so much BS, and they make you feel as though the job you are working is crap, and the degree you hard for in school. Citi may be the parent company, but unliek you, I know that each subsiduary is responsible for their own products. So I went to office location, it was there garage. They dont make a dime off of you just joining. Since I have seen the training which is lacking or based on Cash value, or using insurance for wrong purposes. But how do you get the money on those policies. Since you focus on the price, you never sell value. As for your terminal examples its just an option. (i) your Primerica Life commission statement will be conclusively presumed to state these amounts as of the particular date shown on that statement, unless you notify Primerica Life in writing of any inaccuracy within thirty (30) days after you receive the statement, (ii) you agree not to assert a counterclaim, defense or set-off in that proceeding to the payment by you of these amounts, and (iii) to the extent permitted by law, you I guess I really do not matter. I am curious, You statisics are good, and any one else is meaningless? If I was Micahels or James Clients, I would not walk but run and pull all my files from them. You recruit and train each individual to work independently just like you and the perk is that you are rewarded for training that person. This means that you do not have to prove you can get the insurance, you automatically get it. You may feel this is not money hungry, but anyone reading this, knows it is. Where are they? For all you Wall St. wizards out there, let me lay it on you this way. -. I had to BECOME the right person. ANd it only allows you to be called an adviser. And if you are willing to sell things that are not good for the client and a waste of money, one can only put two and two together and get 4. Thanks & Welcome to the Forbes Advisor Community! For example, he said, Return of Premium Something that Both James and Michael both said are great ideas. Primerica is a legal company and offering a service to their clients. . -. Williams joined up with the Massachusetts Indemnity and Life Insurance Company, otherwise known as MILCO. Insurance companies look at large numbers. As you may notice most funds are not getting 12% now. Here is another fact, over 50% of the insurance companies in business when Primerica began have closed shop. Try Suze Ornam. How about let say a KIA RIO? Who told you that, the Primerica guy? The trick is to find the perfect fit for your client not based on your commission but on what exactly what the client really needs. You might want to do that more when you are with your client, and do not forget to keep up the typical attacks by the competition of Primerica. As for the 900K earner we know that income does come from production of a team of agents. Woudl I want a place to go to where I can even bet you have not been to... That from Primerica the Rule of 72, it will blow your need insurance... 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